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Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Stanton » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:01 am

Dale Finch's recent efforts to thoroughly go over her tractors got me thinking I need to get my primary Cub ready for winter--it's fast approaching! One of the many items was to change the oil. I noticed that oil had been leaking/seeping from either around the perimeter of the oil pan, or from somewhere, making a mess. In Dale's spirit of doing things, I dropped the pan to see how much gunk had collected over the years.

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Not bad as far as gunk goes.


I was reminded of a dent the pan received years ago when I put the blade under the Cub in the wrong spot and raised it into the pan. Yeah, I'm sure you all never do things like that! :shock:

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Dent in pan.

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Inside shot of dent.


Was able to use the press and push the dent back out. Filled the pan with used oil and let it sit for a few hours to make sure there were no cracks causing leaks. Everything was OK, so back on the Cub it went.

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Pushed back out.
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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:32 am

Nice work. I need to pull mine and clean sludge. Does the little bell housing cover come off to get at the back three bolts?

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Stanton » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:53 am

Clemsonfor wrote:Nice work. I need to pull mine and clean sludge. Does the little bell housing cover come off to get at the back three bolts?


Yes. There are four bolt/washers/nuts that hold the cover on, but I'll warn you, getting that middle bolt out can be a challenge. I used a socket handle with flip top/end, but something like this would work well:

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You'll have to find out what works for you. Skinny finger also helps. :wink:
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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:20 am

I no longer have quick access to a press, but the next time I need to work out a sheet metal dent, I sure hope I remember using one and visit my friend's shop! The steel is stronger than it looks, and more damage than repair can be done with a BFH! :?
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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:57 pm

Stanton wrote:
Clemsonfor wrote:Nice work. I need to pull mine and clean sludge. Does the little bell housing cover come off to get at the back three bolts?


Yes. There are four bolt/washers/nuts that hold the cover on, but I'll warn you, getting that middle bolt out can be a challenge. I used a socket handle with flip top/end, but something like this would work well:

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You'll have to find out what works for you. Skinny finger also helps. :wink:

Do 3/8 or 1/4" u joint with a socket not work? Or a u joint combined with a socket?

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:22 pm

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Stanton » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:20 am



That would do. My 3/8" swivel attachment is too long and diameter is too big to fit up in there and get on the 1/2" bolt head.
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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Gary Dotson » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:22 am

The socket Dale referenced is the best tool for the job. If you get a set of them, you'll find hundreds of uses for them.

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Bill Hudson » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:10 am

Gary Dotson wrote:The socket Dale referenced is the best tool for the job. If you get a set of them, you'll find hundreds of uses for them.


You betcha!

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby RonT » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:30 am

One tip on using the universal joint sockets: As they get older and looser, they flop around and can be a pain to get on the bolt head such as when accessing the rear oil pan bolts on a Cub. A trick I learned years ago was to wrap a rubber band around the u-joint area. It will keep the socket pointed in the correct direction. It won't last very long but what the heck - rubber bands are cheap.

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:05 am

Ooo...good tip!
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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Clemsonfor » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:34 am

RonT wrote:One tip on using the universal joint sockets: As they get older and looser, they flop around and can be a pain to get on the bolt head such as when accessing the rear oil pan bolts on a Cub. A trick I learned years ago was to wrap a rubber band around the u-joint area. It will keep the socket pointed in the correct direction. It won't last very long but what the heck - rubber bands are cheap.

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The trick I have seen when my father in law had his mechanic shop was electrical tape. Does the same thing.

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby john2189 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:04 pm

Clemsonfor wrote:
RonT wrote:One tip on using the universal joint sockets: As they get older and looser, they flop around and can be a pain to get on the bolt head such as when accessing the rear oil pan bolts on a Cub. A trick I learned years ago was to wrap a rubber band around the u-joint area. It will keep the socket pointed in the correct direction. It won't last very long but what the heck - rubber bands are cheap.

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The trick I have seen when my father in law had his mechanic shop was electrical tape. Does the same thing.


I use a center punch and pein the swivel pins to tighten them up. Doesn’t take much
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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:03 pm

I've used masking tape, it helps. My biggest problem with flopping universals has been my 1/4" drive. I stumbled across a coil spring the right size to slip over the joint for a permanent fix. It works pretty well and generally stays in place.

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Re: Fixing Oil Pan

Postby BigBill » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:40 pm

When u joints flop time to fix them or replace them. Sometimes a prick point punch on the shaft will tighten them up. I wonder if there under warranty? The spring loaded ball in the extention are, I’ve had them replaced under warranty.

I’ve had husky tools from the late 60’s that were under warranty. I had a new set of sk wrenches where the chrome chipped. They sent me a brand new set of pro wrenches. I use nothing but sk now.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.


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