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Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby Derek Bakken » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:53 am

Being a Mccormick-Deering letter Series guy (A) & having been enamored by the Cub, really wanted a pre '64 "Mini Me"....
That being said.... recently acquired what never thought would....1964 International Cub....

Researching my serial # (224852J) from what I understand it is an early unit (starting SN 224704)

Current color is yellow & white, & has been for many, many years, but on inspection & removing panels for service/maintenance (my first time) the original color is/was IH Red (frame, steering box, seat, fenders, tool box).....
Hood, nose, gas tank are only items I can't see/tell if originally was red/white as is primer below paint....

I have tried to research what color should have been, read that optional color was available, but any answer from experts would be appreciated!!

Thanks/Appreciate You!!
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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:47 pm

Welcome to the forum. Make2 posts and you will have access to the manuals. Have fun with your new toy.
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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby indy61 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:40 pm

It seems there were some red/white Cubs in 1964. I have not seen any original documentation of why, when or how many.

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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby Urbish » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:44 pm

TM Tractor has a page devoted to paint colors and styling changes. http://www.tmtractor.com/id/paintcolor.htm Unfortunately, their guide only covers the rounded nose Cubs from 1963 and earlier. It is hard to say what color it SHOULD be. Some municipal buyers (among others) special-ordered particular paint colors. IH also used a rusty red color primer which is sometimes misinterpreted as Farmall Red under white and/or yellow paint.

This thread may also shed some light on the topic as it is specific to 1964 paint color: http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=107896&p=855859

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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby Glen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:00 pm

Hi,
The Cub operator's manual can help you learn about maintenance that the Cub needs.

Below is the 1965 Cub and LoBoy operator's manual. The experts on here recommend people read it. It has lots of info about operation, maintenance, and lubrication. There is a table of contents on page 1.
The index begins on page 75.
It shows how Cubs originally looked in it. The lube section begins on page 59.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

It shows the electrical system that a 1964 Cub originally had.
Cubs made before serial number 224401 originally had 6 volt, positive ground electrical systems.
Starting at 224401, Cubs have 12 volt, negative ground systems.
The manual has info for 6 and 12 volt systems, disregard the 6 volt info, since your Cub would be 12 volts.

The Touch Control uses Case IH Hy-Tran fluid. It is sold at Case IH dealers.

I would check or change all the oils before using the Cub. Using it with low oil in a gear housing can damage the parts in the housing.
There are 3 separate gear housings, with 3 separate oil levels to check, in the rear area of a Cub, the transmission, and 2 final drives.

The transmissions in Cubs commonly get water in them, from rain, or condensation inside the housing over time.

Below is a post I made about checking and changing the Touch Control fluid, if you need it. :)

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=106664

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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby k hutchins » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:56 pm

It's possible the parts you mentioned were from late production of the last reds. When they decided to change to yellow/white they just repainted them. Casting numbers might help. All parts are easily "stocked" for later assembly. The way things used to be done before "on time delivery" production.

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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby Derek Bakken » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:42 pm

Mike in Louisiana wrote:Welcome to the forum. Make2 posts and you will have access to the manuals. Have fun with your new toy.


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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby Derek Bakken » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:43 pm

indy61 wrote:It seems there were some red/white Cubs in 1964. I have not seen any original documentation of why, when or how many.



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Re: Newbie Question (sorry, Probably discussed already)

Postby Derek Bakken » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:50 pm

Thanks for all replies/info/advice!!
It is a 12 volt, serial # 224852J
It does make sense had some red repainted yellow since started mid year change with 224704 & this one was 148 units later.....


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