Why are points such a pain in the butt?

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby outdoors4evr » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:09 pm

Other options to points include a Pertronix ignitor. You can find better prices than the below.
https://www.amazon.com/Pertronix-1442P6 ... B004OXK0KY

I use the 12v Pertronix (#1444) on my 12v negative ground tractor. Been running it for 8 + years now and haven't had to touch it since installing.
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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby birddog » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:12 pm

I got this one off of e-bay

Ullman Double Ended Nylon Screw Starter Phillips & Slotted Flat 9 inch, MADE IN USA
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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby red agony » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:19 am

I was fighting getting the screw in and trying to find it after dropping it. I didn't have my screw starter so I cut a little green twig and whittled down the tip to hold the screw snugly. It worked well for me, I hope it works for someone else.

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Glen » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:07 pm

Hi,
To work on the magneto, or Battery Ignition unit, I sit down next to the engine on a lawn chair, or if you have a rotary mower under the Cub, let the mower down to the ground, and put something on it to sit on, might work.
Use a good light, and I put a towel on the floor, to catch any screws I might drop. :)

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Angelofbrz » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:37 pm

outdoors4evr wrote:Other options to points include a Pertronix ignitor. You can find better prices than the below.
https://www.amazon.com/Pertronix-1442P6 ... B004OXK0KY

I use the 12v Pertronix (#1444) on my 12v negative ground tractor. Been running it for 8 + years now and haven't had to touch it since installing.



Will that kit work on a 6v? If so do you know what coil goes with it?
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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:12 pm

The Pertronix 1442P6 is a 6v positive ground.
Pertronix recommends a hot coil and wider spark plug gaps, but I just used the factory coil and kept my spark plug gaps factory.

Be careful not to leave the ignition on.
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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby SONNY » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:49 am

Them transistor units are expensive junk! --- wont work on all tractors either! -- I stick with good ole points in my stuff!

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Gary S. » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:20 pm

+1

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:49 am

SONNY wrote:Them transistor units are expensive junk! --- wont work on all tractors either! -- I stick with good ole points in my stuff!


I guess I don't understand. I know that I am spoiled with the 12v negative ground and can use the Pertronix #1444.
Do the 6v negative ground Pertronix units have poor longevity?

On which tractors do these not work? We have 6v positive ground and 12v negative ground configurations. Pertronix makes a product for each.
- I guess I have heard of 6v negative ground (that could be changed back) and some have 8v batteries in a 6v system.


Is the challenge with keeping 6v heading to the Pertronix unit while cranking the starter? (voltage drops below 6v?)
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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Gary S. » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:07 am

#1 is cost- a unit for a 6v Cub is 121, points are 14 nowdays. Owned Cub since 1960 don't remember ever changing them with the mag since the distributor conversion in 74 maybe changed them twice.

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby SONNY » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:47 am

The units are too picky about voltage and IF you understand anything about the way transistors work and how sensitive everything is, --- it would be easy to understand why I hate them! --- I did a lot of electronic work way back when everybody was going from tubes to transistors and learned a bunch about how easy it is to fry them transistors! ---- not only the voltage has to be correct, the ground also has to match and no you cant run a 6-v or 12-v transistor on 8 volts! --- fry that sucker in a flash! lol!!!


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