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Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Shadow_storm56 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:52 pm

Anyone with relatively large hands ever tried to change the points in a cub? It is an interesting ordeal and I dropped one of the screws 1250 times before getting it screwed in place. On the bright side I got it all back together and it's very happy with it's new points, condensor, rotor, distributor cap, spark plugs, spark wires and coil. I bought a new regulator on ebay but it doesn't work so if anyone knows where to get a good 6v regulator for a cub that would be legit :p. So my cubs happy now but has anyone ever had the joy of doing this and dealing with the tiny hard to get screws lol.

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Peter Person » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:01 pm

You can always remove the distributor from the tractor.
Can’t recall the exact procedure but it does make it easy.
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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:07 pm

Why? Fat fingers, poor eyesight, impatience, stiff joints, (all associated with aging). Alternative--visit a Cubfest!!!

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby tst » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:59 pm

regulator Vr-217 part # buy a USA one, foreign ones are junk

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Shadow_storm56 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:20 pm

Peter Person wrote:You can always remove the distributor from the tractor.
Can’t recall the exact procedure but it does make it easy.



I'm sure I could take it off but... I was worried about getting more confused haha. I got it though! After an hour just to get the new condensor in

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Shadow_storm56 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:21 pm

tst wrote:regulator Vr-217 part # buy a USA one, foreign ones are junk

Thanks I'll try and find one somewhere

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby tinnerjohn » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:04 pm

I've found a magnetic screwdriver to be very helpful even when the distributor is vertical. John

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby tst » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:25 pm

I also have a stubby old fashion starting screwdriver that works great, locks into the slot of the screw to get it started without dropping it

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby NJ Farmer » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:45 am

Blue Point tools sells a tool called a “screw starter”. It mechanically holds the screw under spring tension and also has a strong magnet on the other end. Try googling Blue Point Screw Starter you should get something....

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby inairam » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:29 am

I was afraid to remove it but it is the best way.

always set rotor to #1 cylinder before you remove than the timing will be close when you get it back on so it will start for final timing.
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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Gary Dotson » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:55 am

I always remove the dist, to do maint. on it. Engine at TDC and mark everything, roto position, housing to drive housing, etc. Those screw starters are a life saver and are sold under many brand names, just search "screw starters". If working on the dist. on the tractor, get the shortest one you can find, I think it's 2 5/8". I have several lengths but the most useful is one about 6" long.

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Fordman » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:35 am

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby Stanton » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:45 am

tst wrote:I also have a stubby old fashion starting screwdriver that works great, locks into the slot of the screw to get it started without dropping it


I bought a couple in a bunch of old screwdrivers at an auction one time; never seen one before. Wondered why the tip was split. I've learned over the years to reach for these screwdrivers when starting almost any screw in a place where I don't want to drop it.

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby tinnerjohn » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:00 am

NJ Farmer wrote:Blue Point tools sells a tool called a “screw starter”. It mechanically holds the screw under spring tension and also has a strong magnet on the other end. Try googling Blue Point Screw Starter you should get something....

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So thats where the one I had went! I remembered the tool but not where I got it. I'll have to flag down a Snap-On truck. Thanks for the info. John

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Re: Why are points such a pain in the butt?

Postby outdoors4evr » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:54 pm

Just take a good fitting steel screwdriver (sized right for the screw head) and stroke a magnet down the screwdriver 10-12 times. This will magnetize the screwdriver enough to hold the screw onto the head.

Alternative: My wife bought me these "as seen on TV" magnet driver that you slide over your screwdriver or screw gun bit. These work very well on both the screw gun and on the plain screwdriver.
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