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Original battery box

Postby goxu1 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:30 am

Just wondering what an original battery box looks like?
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.

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Re: Original battery box

Postby Stanton » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:35 am

I used an original battery box from a 1948 Cub to build a new one. There are several pictures of it in this How To thread:
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=82882
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Re: Original battery box

Postby inairam » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:00 am

It you are looking to buy one I was very pleased with the one sold by TM tractor http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/5721fp.htm. I did purchase several from different sources before I go on from TM and think this is the best one I have.
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Re: Original battery box

Postby goxu1 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:18 pm

Stanton wrote:I used an original battery box from a 1948 Cub to build a new one. There are several pictures of it in this How To thread:
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=82882


Great effort there.

I noticed that the lid seems to differ a little between the TM and Steiner parts. Which 1 is correct?
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.

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Re: Original battery box

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:30 pm

There were actually three "correct/original" styles of battery box lids. One with two rubber hold down mounts, one with four rubber hold down mounts (like the Steiner lid) and one with four clips around the edge of the lid to hold the battery down and position it in the center of the box. The two mount version appears to start when the early conversion to 12V took place (1964). The clip version was used in later years with the 12V battery. TM explains in their product description why they didn't include the hold down mounts on theirs.
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Re: Original battery box

Postby goxu1 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:02 pm

OK , My cub is a 1957 , so I'm guessing it was 6V originally.
Its got a battery box on it now , but no lid or front panel.
Ive been looking at both the TM and Steiner boxes and they both look well made.
I can see a difference in the way the flange has been made on the lids. The TM has
a notch in the corners to allow for bending whereas the Steiner looks like it has been hard pressed to give a neat formed corner.
Are both correct ?
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Re: Original battery box

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:07 pm

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If you look at the current production TM lid above, I think they are both made the same way. Yes, your 57 would have been 6V from the factory.
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Re: Original battery box

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:15 pm

Have you tried posting a WANTED ad in the VINE section to see if someone has the front and top...assuming your box is in good condition?
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Re: Original battery box

Postby inairam » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:42 am

I agree with Dale. match an old box with an old lid would be your best option. The hold down for the battery may get in the way. You have to be careful about battery selection. (Probably the reason the lid is missing - lid would not fit battery too tall).

6v size 19L or Group 1, 12 v size 26R all fit the 19L ( VW bug 6 volt size) is the smallest but has the lowest CCA ( cold cranking amps.) I have a mix of 19ls and group 1 in my 6 volt cubs. I have not had a problem with the 19ls but I am not in a super cold area.
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Re: Original battery box

Postby goxu1 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:20 pm

this is my battery box. It doesn't look like an original to me.
I might wait a bit and get a whole new assy ??
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Re: Original battery box

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:47 pm

You are correct. It is not original.
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Re: Original battery box

Postby goxu1 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:29 pm

Thought it so. The cutout on the side didn't look correct.
I haven't had the battery out to see what the bottom is like , but it will do for the time being...
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.

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Re: Original battery box

Postby tst » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:01 pm

that is a Taiwan cheapie, they were poor quality also, most of the time the factory lid does not fit that anyway

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Re: Original battery box

Postby goxu1 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:02 pm

YEP , its gotta go....
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.

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Re: Original battery box

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:23 pm

FYI...after you remove your current battery box, make sure you clean the area underneath REALLY well. Assuming you will be using the new battery box for ground (ground wire bolted to the top left side hole...clean away any primer and/or paint), you should also chase the battery box bolt holes to remove rust and old gunk! Those bolts provide the ground. On mine I also removed a small dot of paint from the box bottom where each bolt goes through, along with matching "dots" on the chassis around the bolt holes. Hard to chase down bad grounds later, so eliminating this area as a problem now is the easiest way!
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