Cub #3 spring tooth cultivator

[BullDAWG]

Here is a link to a youtube video of a #3 spring tooth cult., does anyone use one? How deep will it go? I may instead of building a chisel plow for cub or SA I may look for one and try buying this if it will go 12" deep.

[Don McCombs]

I don't have one and never used one, but I doubt that it will cultivate 12 inches deep.

[Rick Spivey]

I have one that I have only used once, but no, it won't go 12" deep. I would say it is limited to more like 3" - 6" deep at the maximum. Haven't checked the manual to see if it states a depth capability.

[BullDAWG]

I was looking for it in the manual section but can't find it.

edit: found it, its under cubs, I was looking under implements and such, not thinking they had cub implements listed in same folder as the cub parts and operator manuals. but I found it.... Bad news is it doesn't give depth specs, only spacing of shanks and width of shanks

[Scrivet]

Don't own one, haven't used one, but I have an opinion. That is I don't think a Cub 3 will go 12" deep because the depth wheel adjustment won't go that high. It's not made to because it's a cultivator, not a plow. Cultivating is disturbing the top couple inches to knock out weeds and break up the crust of soil on the surface to allow moisture to penetrate better.

You could probably make it go 12" deep in loose soil by smaller gauge wheels or modifying how the normal ones mount. But then if the soil is loose to 12" why would you need to loosen it? Even then would a Cub or SA pull it at that depth? Would depend somewhat on what width shovels were mounted on it. The wider they are the more oomph it would take. Just estimating here but say 2" wide times 7 shanks is 14" width. A Cub 193 plow is 12" and a Cub 3 would not be turning it all at once but dragging 7 tines through the dirt like little boat anchors.

[Super A]

You will need a full fledged chisel plow to go that deep. And that's deep even for a chisel plow. In my soils, the general recommendation is 10 hp per shank.

This spring a friend deep ripped all our corn and soybean land. He ran 5 shanks around 14" deep, and used a JD 4640 making around 150 HP. It was all it wanted.

Point is to work as deep as you are talking about you are going to need more tractor.

Al

[Rick Spivey]

I agree with Al, I had a subsoiler (1 point) that probably didn't go to 12" deep; maybe more like 8" to 10" maximum. It was made for a 140, which is why Al ended up with it. But I tried it once on my Cub. The Cub barely pulled it in soft soil, and it was dangerous because it caused the tractor to "lurch" when it hit hard spots. A cub won't pull anything that is 12" in the ground.

[Cub-Bud]

Here's a picture of mine; it's not for working, only for looking at.

http://photos.cubfest.com/albums/userpics/10057/normal_IMG_1503a.jpg

[BullDAWG]

Why then did IH make this stiff shank ripper if the cub can't pull them ???? Can't find the picture but I've seen somewhere in pdf manual section an image of a cub pulling the stiff shanks and it looked to be over 10" deep, maybe my thinking of what those shanks are in length is way off but it had them over half way in ground closer to 2/3's buried.
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=21839&mode=view


And Cub-Bud, thats a fine example of the #3... I use all my equipment, I restore them, they look purdy for a little while n then they get USED. So they never stay purdy for long...

[Super A]

Why then did IH make this stiff shank ripper if the cub can't pull them ????
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=21839&mode=view


And Cub-Bud, thats a fine example of the #3... I use all my equipment, I restore them, they look purdy for a little while n then they get USED. So they never stay purdy for long...

I expect because some of that stuff is for a 140. I don't think that's a Cub toolbar either.

A Cub is just not going to do what you're talking about. Rick's subsoiler is all my Super A wants if I put it way down and it has a lot more a$$ than a Cub.

A Cub-3 cultivator is a great tool for shallower work, say after a decent plowing job. I would use mine when I wanted to plant but the ground had been rained on and a few weeds were starting to poke through.

Al

[BullDAWG]

Why then did IH make this stiff shank ripper if the cub can't pull them ????
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=21839&mode=view


And Cub-Bud, thats a fine example of the #3... I use all my equipment, I restore them, they look purdy for a little while n then they get USED. So they never stay purdy for long...

I expect because some of that stuff is for a 140. I don't think that's a Cub toolbar either.

A Cub is just not going to do what you're talking about. Rick's subsoiler is all my Super A wants if I put it way down and it has a lot more a$$ than a Cub.

A Cub-3 cultivator is a great tool for shallower work, say after a decent plowing job. I would use mine when I wanted to plant but the ground had been rained on and a few weeds were starting to poke through.

Al

Well this CUB looks like its pulling that ok, guess that guy added enough "A$$" to let it pull it

[Super A]

Look at the picture. He's not 12" deep. He's at about the same depth as the Cub-3 but in tighter ground that the 3 wouldn't penetrate.

Also if a shank hits something he's going all up in the steering wheel but that's another story.....

Al

[BullDAWG]

how big is that tire. I would think thats at least 12" and the shanks are burried that deep.

[Glen]

Hi,
The pic above that says "Fast Hitch tool bar" in red, I think I posted at another post. The pics are the same as is in my 1955 Cub brochure anyway.

The tires on the tool bar are probably 8" implement tires.

[Mac AR]

Funny this came up, since I have been ripping all day today. Used the 300 and a single shank ripper, and ran it about 24" deep. Let me tell ya, its all the old gal wanted. Ran in 2nd, but the TA got a workout. I know my Cub couldn't pull it even 12" deep in our ground so I figure the one in the illustration above can't be in over 8.

Is there any particular reason you couldn't just use a moldboard plow? Even in hard ground, a disk plow will do a fine job. And, those implements are easier to find than a #3 cultivator or a ripper. I only ask out of curiosity.

Mac