This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

Thread repair

The Cub Club -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
User avatar
Dale Finch
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 6694
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
Zip Code: 27517
Tractors Owned: '51 Cub #140966 "Bruno" with Woods 59 mower
'55 Cub #187541 "Betty" with Fast Hitch
'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Chapel Hill

Thread repair

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:16 am

I am helping a friend who has a cub with a few oversized implement holes, specifically one of the 2 that holds his sickle mower at the clutch housing. Because it has been enlarged to 3/4", the bolt holding the left side, even though it is tapered, does not fit down into the tapered sickle bracket well enough to keep the bolt from vibrating loose.

I thought I could simply helicoil the hole back to 5/8", but at 3/4" it is already too large for the helicoil drill (21/32"). Has anyone done this repair? Did you use threaded inserts? If so, do you have a part number? Or is there a better way to fix this?

When I was at his place, I noticed the left final has the same oversized implement bolts, so I'm not sure how securely those are holding the mower/drawbar either. I would like to fix it right...or at least more securely! Thanks.
Dale Finch
Image
Circle of Safety

User avatar
Slim140
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 4908
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:24 am
Zip Code: 00000
Tractors Owned: .
1970 International 140
1972 International 140
1949 John Deere A
1993 Ford 4630 W/Loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Thread repair

Postby Slim140 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:48 am

They make an oversized thread insert, it's called thick wall. Here's a link to Mcmaster Carr that has all the dimensions.
https://www.mcmaster.com/90245a038
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?

Circle of Safety

Bob McCarty
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 11877
Joined: Tue May 25, 2004 8:02 pm
Zip Code: 80501
Tractors Owned: Cubs, MH Pony, Shaw, Allis G, 1934 Silver King, JD LA and LI, Gibson D, David Bradley Tri-Trac
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CO, Longmont

Re: Thread repair

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:18 am

E-Z lok is another brand. They take a standard drill bit and tap, not STI's like a helicoil.
"We don't need to think more,
we need to think differently."
-Albert Einstein

User avatar
Dale Finch
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 6694
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
Zip Code: 27517
Tractors Owned: '51 Cub #140966 "Bruno" with Woods 59 mower
'55 Cub #187541 "Betty" with Fast Hitch
'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Chapel Hill

Re: Thread repair

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:24 pm

I was looking at EZLOK, and if I was reading the table correctly, in order to insert one for a 5/8" fitting, the hole needs to be 1". Can you guys confirm that? And next, can you take a look at the clutch housing where the bolt holes are for the sickle bracket, and tell me if you think there is enough room for a 1" hole? 1" puts the hole pretty close to the edge of the boss (if that's what the flat area is called :D )
Dale Finch
Image
Circle of Safety

Clubless
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 179
Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:43 pm
Zip Code: 27041
Tractors Owned: ---------
1948 Farmall Cub #56596
1950 Farmall Cub #101608
1950 Farmall Cub #106823
1955 Farmall Cub #188789
Location: NC, Pilot Mountain

Re: Thread repair

Postby Clubless » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:31 pm

Dale,

Here is picture of EZ-LOK inserts, drill bit and tap I used to repair finals on a couple of my cubs. The tap drill bit is 49/64 and the tap is 7/8-9. I repaired the implement holes while finals were on tractor. I was well pleased with results.

I can mail you the drill bit and taps if you like, would just need your address.

Gary
:tractor:
Attachments
Bit tap.jpg

User avatar
Dale Finch
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 6694
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
Zip Code: 27517
Tractors Owned: '51 Cub #140966 "Bruno" with Woods 59 mower
'55 Cub #187541 "Betty" with Fast Hitch
'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Chapel Hill

Re: Thread repair

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:13 pm

If my math is correct, the current bolt is a 3/4", which is 48/64", which means there's JUST enough metal for your 49/64" drill. That would be fantastic! I will get the info from the inserts so I can replace what I use. Thank you! :{_}:

Sending PM!
Dale Finch
Image
Circle of Safety

Bob McCarty
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 11877
Joined: Tue May 25, 2004 8:02 pm
Zip Code: 80501
Tractors Owned: Cubs, MH Pony, Shaw, Allis G, 1934 Silver King, JD LA and LI, Gibson D, David Bradley Tri-Trac
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: CO, Longmont

Re: Thread repair

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:34 pm

Dale, for future reference, I think they come in thin, standard, and thick walls so you can match it to the hole size you're correcting.
"We don't need to think more,
we need to think differently."
-Albert Einstein

User avatar
tenn terry t
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 71
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 9:12 pm
Zip Code: 37036
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Charlotte tn(35 miles west of music city)

Re: Thread repair

Postby tenn terry t » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:05 pm

this might make folks cringe but I have one cub that the holes on both sides are wallowed out. I have 3/4 all thread rod thru the bell housing with nuts and lock washers on both sides

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 17305
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: Thread repair

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:31 pm

tenn terry t wrote:this might make folks cringe but I have one cub that the holes on both sides are wallowed out. I have 3/4 all thread rod thru the bell housing with nuts and lock washers on both sides

That will never stay tight, particularly for the mower. The threads of the all thread will wear through the casting even faster than most other things that could be in that place.

User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5237
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: Collector of Super As, Corn Pickers, and a buncha other junk. Even a Cub now and then...
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Jacksonville area

Re: Thread repair

Postby Super A » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:25 am

I had a similar problem on my tractor. For of the implement holes on the torque tube had stripped, someone had tried to drill/rethread and they stripped again. Holes were right at 1" in diameter. I was able to get Shane to drill and make thread inserts for it. It was a mess but he made it look like nothing had ever happened!

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022

User avatar
tenn terry t
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 71
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 9:12 pm
Zip Code: 37036
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Charlotte tn(35 miles west of music city)

Re: Thread repair

Postby tenn terry t » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:33 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
tenn terry t wrote:this might make folks cringe but I have one cub that the holes on both sides are wallowed out. I have 3/4 all thread rod thru the bell housing with nuts and lock washers on both sides

That will never stay tight, particularly for the mower. The threads of the all thread will wear through the casting even faster than most other things that could be in that place.
yea well its only been on there for the five or so years that ive had it so I guess time will tell

Nelson 634
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 308
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 9:57 pm
Zip Code: 22958
Tractors Owned: 5 Cubs
1952 100
1960 460 Utility
Location: Central Va.

Re: Thread repair

Postby Nelson 634 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:25 am

tenn terry t wrote:this might make folks cringe but I have one cub that the holes on both sides are wallowed out. I have 3/4 all thread rod thru the bell housing with nuts and lock washers on both sides

I think Jim Becker has a point. Think about the load with a snow plow or the vibration with a sickle bar mower. Maybe you don't have these implements but it limits what you are able to do with your cub. Just a thought. Walter
Walter


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Glen and 2 guests