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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby coppersmythe » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:38 am

good morning all from the deep south . its taken about 4 years of "off and on" looking to gather up the correct parts for a true '48 blade . :D coppersmythe............................PS: the hunt is a big part of the fun

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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby Urbish » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:45 am

Bob McCarty wrote:
gawiley wrote: Any ideas if I should try to heat & straighten the triangular piece the hooks onto the plow or find one that is not bent.

If you mean the bow shaped piece, I think you'll have a hard time finding a good one. They had a tendency to break in the middle. The next version had the "strut" connecting the two sides.


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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby Urbish » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:46 am

TM has a lot of photos of that 1st year blade: http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim/early_blade.htm
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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby NJ Farmer » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:01 am

I have no experience with Cub plows since my ‘53 is a “fair weather” working tractor. I would like to add the technical addition to putting a plow on your Cub you might “consider” adding those engine braces that one of the member makes. It seems to me there might be some considerable amount of torque and force on the front bolster with that kind of operation. Maybe someone more knowledgeable will back me up on this suggestion....

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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby gawiley » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 am

I may be interested if other people think I may need the additional support

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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby Bob McCarty » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:57 am

What kind of surface will you be plowing? Smooth blacktop, concrete with uneven joints, gravel, etc. If there won't be a problem with the blade hitting an immovable piece of concrete, ice, etc. you probably don't need the supports. I think it's more of a problem with that style of blade breaking, rather than the tractor breaking.
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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby Urbish » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:03 pm

Bob McCarty wrote:What kind of surface will you be plowing? Smooth blacktop, concrete with uneven joints, gravel, etc. If there won't be a problem with the blade hitting an immovable piece of concrete, ice, etc. you probably don't need the supports. I think it's more of a problem with that style of blade breaking, rather than the tractor breaking.


In my engineering opinion, the early blade is kind of flimsy. It will probably plow snow fine as long as you're working with a relatively smooth surface and aren't ramming into your snow banks trying to push them back. I wouldn't expect much from it if trying to grade packed dirt or gravel.
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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby radioguy41 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:29 pm

Yes, there's a reason they moved away from that original configuration so quickly. In my opinion it's definitely light duty, more for grading gravel and lose dirt that icy, deep, or heavy wet snow. But that's just me, opinions can vary. :wink:
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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby k hutchins » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:55 pm

That is the model l have and have been working with for 50 yrs.
When you mention that everything fits together except one hole. Are you talking about the holes for adjusting the angle? If so that's not unusual. They can be a bugger to line up. With mine, if l get close l usually have to pull out on the bottom of the blade to line it up, then the two pieces seperate and l have to start over.
For plowing snow and grading l just leave it tilted full right and leave it. Probably haven't changed the angle in 30 yrs, but it works great that way for me.
Download the manual, it will explain how to install, front and belly.

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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby gawiley » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:03 pm

I've got that first year production snow blade close to being done but I'm not real happy with the design. No wonder they changed it so quickly. Perhaps I can find someone who would trade for a newer one.
I've looked but can't figure out how to post pictures.

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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby gawiley » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:29 am

Hopefully one last question. I do not have the square spacers with a hole that go behind the front axle to mount the plow. Where can I find two of these? What are they called?

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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby Cubfriend » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:53 am

I call them blade blocks. TM usually has them if you are OK with functional instead of original.
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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby Urbish » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:13 am

gawiley wrote:Hopefully one last question. I do not have the square spacers with a hole that go behind the front axle to mount the plow. Where can I find two of these? What are they called?


I don't have those either, but a previous owner cut a piece of square steel tubing to length with nuts welded to the ends. That works good for me and I use a single long bolt on the right side of the tractor to go through the attachment frame and lift lever.
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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby gawiley » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:49 am

Food for thought. Thanks Jim

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Re: Cub snow blade

Postby gawiley » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:52 am

What is TM?


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