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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:58 pm

I didn't compensate mathematically for the flange or the angle. But, I did round up from 6.5 to "7 or 8" to adjust for the photo angle. :D
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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby T-Mo » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:37 pm

The seller just got back with me - it's 4.5 feet inside wheel rim to inside wheel rim. The length is adjustable. As mentioned, the tires are 15 inch rims. My research says it's either a John Deere 953 or a 963. From the images I'm finding on the internet, it matches either one of those models. I may go look at it this weekend, weather permitting. Here is a video of a 963, which I believe is rated at 10,000 lbs, while the 953 is rated at 8,000 lbs I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nrnvxLtJKA

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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby T-Mo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:37 am

I went to look at it yesterday. From my research, this is definitely a 953. A 943 wagon doesn't have the upper frame structure, just the lower frame and is probably rated a bit less in payload. The 963 will have a leaf spring, front and back, running parallel between the upper and lower structures, and parallel to the axles. Plus a coil spring on each side between the upper and lower, front and back.

This one has one new tire, but the other 3 are shot. It does take 15 inch tires. The length does adjust but the bolts will probably have to be cut off and replaced to get the adjustment. They're rusted pretty bad. It's been sitting in the same spot probably a year - the guy said he bought it last year with plans to make it into a hay wagon, but just doesn't have the time. He has 600 acres to keep up with, and his land is pretty rough in spots with hills to navigate - I can see where he has a lot of work to do to keep up with it.

My main concern is the size and weight of this. It will be heavy, especially when the platform is constructed and then add a load - it will be pretty heavy for a Cub to pull, especially if there's any hill to climb.

As for the Northern Tool running gear, it looks like TSC sells an identical one, just a different brand name. TSCs is called Field Tuff, while Northern Tool's is called Farm Tuff I believe. Here is a link to TSCs:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/produ ... _vc=-10005

Problem with TSCs is they only ship to your home or business, therefore the freight is kind of high. I don't know why they don't at least, ship it to their stores.

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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:55 pm

From the TSC description, there is a manufacturer model number, FTF-2200UW. If you stick that into a google search, you will see a bunch of places that sell the same thing. You can probably find a place near you that either has it in their store or will ship to store. An Amazon listing for it gives the manufacturer as "TRI Global Enterprises". I wonder if this is accurate, but if so it suggests importing from the far east. The Northern Tool Farm Tough is made in Canada but uses some Chinese imported components. So it appears that they come from two different places. But they look so much alike that one about has to be a reverse engineered knockoff of the other. Having never had the opportunity to closely examine the Field Tuff, I don't know which, if either, is better built.

I have used the Northern Tool store delivery several times with no problems.

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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby T-Mo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:35 pm

I pretty sure it made by the same company - I found manuals for both and their the same manual.

I'm still intrigued, though, by the John Deere running gear - it's definitely made to hold up to any load and will outlast the smaller ones from NT and TSC.

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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby radioguy41 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:48 pm

T-Mo wrote:My main concern is the size and weight of this. It will be heavy, especially when the platform is constructed and then add a load - it will be pretty heavy for a Cub to pull, especially if there's any hill to climb.

Going down hill might be more of a concern considering the less-than-stellar brakes on a Cub.
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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby grnspot » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:51 pm

I grew up using JD 953 wagons with the leaf springs, big improvement over wagons without springs, especially when riding them all day in a hay field. We always loaded the bales off the baler, seldom put a bale on the ground. I have pulled a loaded wagon (45 60+ lb. bales) up a short hill into the haybarn with a model "V" Avery, but it was all the little tractor would do!
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Re: Pull Behind Wagon/Cart

Postby T-Mo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:21 pm

I definitely won't be hauling 45 60 lb bales of hay, which is 2700 lbs (plus whatever the wagon weighs).

This wagon from member inairam probably is close to what this John Deere is: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=103420


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