This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

The right engine oil

The Cub Club -- Questions and answers to all of your Cub related issues.
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
User avatar
capefarm
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 44
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:39 am
Zip Code: 02653
Tractors Owned: 1949 Cub

The right engine oil

Postby capefarm » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:37 am

Likely it's been covered before, but I'm relatively new to this forum.
I've been told not to use 10W30 oil in my Cub, only non-detergent, non-synthetic SAE 30. Is this correct?

User avatar
ricky racer
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 6338
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:40 pm
Zip Code: 49120
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Niles / Buchanan, Michigan

Re: The right engine oil

Postby ricky racer » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:25 am

10W-30 is fine. That's what I run. Non-detergent oil is meant for engines without filters. Detergent oils are made for engines with a filter which your Cub has.
Oh, welcome to the forum. You've found the best Cub website on the planet!!
1929 Farmall Regular
1935 John Deere B
1937 John Deere A
1941 John Deere H
1952 John Deere B
1953 Farmall Cub

jsfarmall
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 605
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:04 pm
Zip Code: 72454
Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub "Trusty"
1948 Cub "Rusty"
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie" (wife's tractor)
1965 IH Cub "Annie"
1943 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M (granddad's tractor)

Re: The right engine oil

Postby jsfarmall » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:28 pm

Welcome to the forum, lots of great knowledge here. Non detergent oil is what they originally ran on. Probably all that was there at the time. Detergent oils are just fine. I use rotella 15w 40. Was recently deciding on a cheaper oil but decided to stay with name brand. Main thing with oil is get a good quality and stay with it. That's what I'm doing.
1948 Cub "Trusty"
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M

User avatar
John *.?-!.* cub owner
Cub Pro
Cub Pro
Posts: 23701
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:09 pm
Zip Code: 63664
Tractors Owned: 47, 48, 49 cub plus Wagner loader & other attachments. 41 Farmall H.
Location: Mo, Potosi

Re: The right engine oil

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:12 pm

If you know what was in it before, I suggest sticking with the same thing. If I rebuild one, I use 10w30 detergent oil in it.
If you are not part of the solution,
you are part of the problem!!!

User avatar
capefarm
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 44
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:39 am
Zip Code: 02653
Tractors Owned: 1949 Cub

Re: The right engine oil

Postby capefarm » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:25 pm

Thank you both so very much. I very much appreciate the knowledge available here. And perhaps I might add to it from experience in a place surrounded by the sea: When making up 'ground tackle' for our moorings in the Bay, we coat all threads in steel shackles, etc. with undiluted pine tar. That way they never ever seize, even when left underwater for months. I have done this when refastening parts during restoration of our '49 Cub, since it's likely to outlast me.

Thank you again.

BigBill
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 7388
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:02 pm
Zip Code: 00000
Location: in northern usa

Re: The right engine oil

Postby BigBill » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:32 pm

Winter oil and cub farmall or int154/184/185. 10-30wt, summer 15/40wt

Cub cadet summer oil 30wt, winter 10/30.

When not sure check the manufacturers owners manual.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

kully560
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 89
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:11 pm
Zip Code: 11727

Re: The right engine oil

Postby kully560 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:06 pm

I USE THE NEWER DIESEL ENGINE OIL 10W-30W AS IT HAS A HIGHER ZINC CONTENT . ROTELLA T4 10W-30W YOU CAN BUY IT AT AUTOZONE, TRACTOR SUPPLY

User avatar
Bermuda Ken
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 682
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 8:43 am
Zip Code: 53536
Tractors Owned: Tractors owned past/present:

Farmall.....F-1206, F-806 sn#501.

Cub Cadet...Original(s), 122, Spirit of 76, 1200, 1250, 1450, 782, 782 Diesel (2), 984, 982, CADET 000 LT Prototype.
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Wisconsin.......The Badger State

Re: The right engine oil

Postby Bermuda Ken » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:01 am

I use what IH says to use.....30W LO-ASH oil. In gassers you need a lower sulfated ash content to ward off a large list of engine issues. The 10-30 and 15-40 oils in the world may/do NOT have this. Why risk a failure??
Cub Cadets....Engineered for people who know better!

inairam
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 2823
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: The right engine oil

Postby inairam » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:52 am

Bermuda Ken wrote:I use what IH says to use.....30W LO-ASH oil.


The oils available today were not even conceived of in the 1940s when the engine was designed and even the 1970 when they stop making the engine.

Any modern detergent multiweight or single weight oil from a name supplier is more than safe for the cub engine.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

User avatar
Lt.Mike
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 2499
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: 1 -'58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's
2 - '52 Farmall Cubs
1 - '53 Farmall Super A
1 - ‘41 Ford 9N with a ‘49 8N Engine
1 - ‘48 (5641) Allis Chalmers G
Location: Farmingdale NJ

Re: The right engine oil

Postby Lt.Mike » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:28 am

There’s lots of correct opinions on this but one thing is certain. The wrong oil and filter for the Cub is the oil that hasn’t been changed.
Anything’s a huge step up from that.

Me personally I’m a Mobil1 believer.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"

User avatar
radioguy41
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1257
Joined: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:46 am
Zip Code: 18235
Tractors Owned: -
1957 Red IH Lo-Boy
1980 Red IH Cub Cadet 782
1993 Craftsman LT4000
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Lehighton, PA

Re: The right engine oil

Postby radioguy41 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:54 am

Bermuda Ken wrote:I use what IH says to use.....30W LO-ASH oil. In gassers you need a lower sulfated ash content to ward off a large list of engine issues. The 10-30 and 15-40 oils in the world may/do NOT have this. Why risk a failure??

Agree, IH 30W Lo-Ash. Multi-vis, diesel, or synthetic might work but I don't see an upside, and it would have to be a significant upside, for moving away from the mfg's recommendation.

inairam wrote:The oils available today were not even conceived of in the 1940s when the engine was designed and even the 1970 when they stop making the engine.

That's true but the same could be said about manual transmission oil and you would never put the newest oil into an older manual tranny with yellow metal synchros because additives in it will destroy those synchros. Newer does not necessarily translate to better when applied to antique vehicles.
Circle of Safety Image ImageImage
KB3WBB

inairam
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 2823
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: The right engine oil

Postby inairam » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:31 am

I think these engines are robust and not very picky. Short of running olive oil I think most of the motor oil you can buy at today will be fine.

I do agree that there are issues with gearbox oils related to sulfur but this discussion is motor oils.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

ntrenn
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 804
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:55 pm
Zip Code: 47119
Skype Name: ntrenn
Tractors Owned: 63 Cub 221833 in family since '69
65 Lo-boy 19648 with an un-stuck #4 - it lives!!!
144 Cultivators with disc hillers
193 Plow
42C mower
59L mower mounted on the Fcub
23A Disc - lost possession
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Indiana

Re: The right engine oil

Postby ntrenn » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:40 pm

I know they don’t like running with the crankcase full of hydraulic fluid...,

I run 15w40 year round...it will pump down to 10 below...good enough for me...

kully560
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 89
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:11 pm
Zip Code: 11727

Re: The right engine oil

Postby kully560 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:39 pm

years ago the motor oils had a much higher zinc content for lube . with todays motors now required is low zinc content and 1% or less ash content that is why I use diesel engine oil

BQUICK
Posts: 37
Joined: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:23 pm
Zip Code: 21613

Re: The right engine oil

Postby BQUICK » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:49 am

Valvoline VR1 racing oil, high zinc, 10w-30 winter, 20W-50 summer....may be over kill but why not?......


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farmall Cub”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests