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Not an oil debate just question
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1948 Cub "Rusty"
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie" (wife's tractor)
1965 IH Cub "Annie"
1943 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M (granddad's tractor)
Not an oil debate just question
Been using rotella which I know is good. Traveller from TSC is 45 per bucket where rotella is 62 per bucket. I need 2 buckets for all my tractors. Should I steered away from Traveller oil or is it good stuff?
Not a debate over oil, don't want fights or insults. Just want a straight answer. Only reason I'm asking is because of the total price difference in of 2 buckets.
Not a debate over oil, don't want fights or insults. Just want a straight answer. Only reason I'm asking is because of the total price difference in of 2 buckets.
1948 Cub "Trusty"
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
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1948 Farmall Super A - Circle of Safety: Y
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
Research indicates that Warren Oil Company packages Traveller for TSC, in addition to Supertech for Walmart and numerous other "house" brands. The base oil is likely all the same. The differences are in the additives. The bottom line is that you get what you pay for, in most cases. One of those things is product confidence.
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1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
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1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide - Circle of Safety: Y
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
Whatever you use it will be so far superior to any oil products available in 40s when the engine was designed or in the 40-70s when the tractor was in heavy use.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
I remember the advice of one of the forum's great experts, when I asked a similar question: David Bennett (AKA "BOSS HOG"), "It ain't a nascar racing engine, don't overthink it"
"Courage is being scared to death-but saddling up anyway".......John Wayne
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
Using oil is better than "not using oil"
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
Lots of common sense in all the previous comments re oil.
Bernard,
Donegal Cub.
Bernard,
Donegal Cub.
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
This has been 35 or 40 years ago, but I had a Homelite T15 Garden tractor, which was one of the very early hydrostats. I got it all ready for spring, and when the weather was right I put the plow on and started plowing the garden, I made a couple rounds and the engine started lugging down and finally stalled. I let it set for a while, and another round or two, the same thing. Third try with same result. I got it back to the house and was trying to figure out what was wrong. The only thing different From last summer and the winter snow plowing I could think of was I had put Walmart brand non detergent 30 wt in it when I changed the oil. I drained it out and walked to a gas station a couple blocks away and bought 2 cans (held 1 1/2 quarts) of Shell 30wt, and all was well. I assume the Walmart oil is better now, but I don't buy it anymore.
If you are not part of the solution,
you are part of the problem!!!
you are part of the problem!!!
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
inairam wrote:Whatever you use it will be so far superior to any oil products available in 40s when the engine was designed or in the 40-70s when the tractor was in heavy use.
1929 Farmall Regular
1935 John Deere B
1937 John Deere A
1941 John Deere H
1952 John Deere B
1953 Farmall Cub
1935 John Deere B
1937 John Deere A
1941 John Deere H
1952 John Deere B
1953 Farmall Cub
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1948 Cub "Rusty"
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie" (wife's tractor)
1965 IH Cub "Annie"
1943 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M (granddad's tractor)
Re: Not an oil debate just question
Appreciate the input y'all. Exactly what I asked for!
1948 Cub "Trusty"
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
So... Oil choice is a personal choice. What is your decision?
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade
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1948 Cub "Rusty"
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie" (wife's tractor)
1965 IH Cub "Annie"
1943 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M (granddad's tractor)
Re: Not an oil debate just question
outdoors4evr wrote:So... Oil choice is a personal choice. What is your decision?
Your right. I'm going to go ahead with the Rotella. It's going to cost about 40 dollars more total but I know Grand dad has used that oil for 30 years in the super m so I'm going to keep it the same. For flushing a motor out I will probably use the cheaper stuff but longtime run I'm going to use the quality I know. As stated above, they are not racing engines, but if took care of will last many many years.
1948 Cub "Trusty"
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
good morning from the gloomy overcast deep south . 58* this morning , 80% chance of rain . motor overhaul , $1200.00 ( your results may vary ) . extra cost of "good" motor oil , $40.00 ( once a year ? again, your situation may vary ) . $1200 divided by $40.00 = 30 years . coppersmythe.................................PS: my dad bought a older car that got poor gas mileage ( during the years of high gas prices ) , he compared the cost of a new car "price" with good mileage with the older car ,low mileage . it was going to take twelve years for the two cost to "meet" . also , he did not take into consideration depreciation on the new car ( which is considerable on a new car ) . WHILE MAYBE NOT SCIENTIFIC (lots of variables) , something to consider. he never had to put a wrench on that older car , they drove it till he passed away , thirteen years later .
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
coppersmythe wrote:good morning from the gloomy overcast deep south . 58* this morning , 80% chance of rain . motor overhaul , $1200.00 ( your results may vary ) . extra cost of "good" motor oil , $40.00 ( once a year ? again, your situation may vary ) . $1200 divided by $40.00 = 30 years . coppersmythe.................................PS: my dad bought a older car that got poor gas mileage ( during the years of high gas prices ) , he compared the cost of a new car "price" with good mileage with the older car ,low mileage . it was going to take twelve years for the two cost to "meet" . also , he did not take into consideration depreciation on the new car ( which is considerable on a new car ) . WHILE MAYBE NOT SCIENTIFIC (lots of variables) , something to consider.
I ask a man once what kind of mileage his truck got. He said I couldn't tell you, when it gets empty I fill it up. My wife says if you like what you drive mileage doesn't matter
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?
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- Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub "Trusty"
1948 Cub "Rusty"
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie" (wife's tractor)
1965 IH Cub "Annie"
1943 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M (granddad's tractor)
Re: Not an oil debate just question
coppersmythe wrote:good morning from the gloomy overcast deep south . 58* this morning , 80% chance of rain . motor overhaul , $1200.00 ( your results may vary ) . extra cost of "good" motor oil , $40.00 ( once a year ? again, your situation may vary ) . $1200 divided by $40.00 = 30 years . coppersmythe.................................PS: my dad bought a older car that got poor gas mileage ( during the years of high gas prices ) , he compared the cost of a new car "price" with good mileage with the older car ,low mileage . it was going to take twelve years for the two cost to "meet" . also , he did not take into consideration depreciation on the new car ( which is considerable on a new car ) . WHILE MAYBE NOT SCIENTIFIC (lots of variables) , something to consider. he never had to put a wrench on that older car , they drove it till he passed away , thirteen years later .
That's exactly what I was thinking about. I'm in the process of rebuilding a cub engine right now. I'll be roughly 700 in it. Im not changing valves and I had a good crank so there is a few hundred I'm not going to have to spend. So considering it's enough oil to change 7 tractors which include an H and Super M the breakdown per tractor and cost of an engine, extra cost of quality is negligible.
1948 Cub "Trusty"
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
1948 Cub "Rusty" mower tractor, trimmed ear dash
1948 Cub "Bob"
1948 Cub "Sallie"
1965 IH Cub "Annie" mower tractor,
1943 Farmall H,
1953 Farmall Super M
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Re: Not an oil debate just question
I'm running Rotella in hopes of not needing to consider oil brand an issue...
Given no Rotella , I want an oily oil vs a waxy oil . And clean oil over dirty oil.(!)
Given no Rotella , I want an oily oil vs a waxy oil . And clean oil over dirty oil.(!)
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