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Re: Transmission Grinding
With all of your description and the pictures, my money if l were a betting man is that you need a new throw out bearing. Before you get too far, pull the access cover and take a look. If the carbon if flush with the metal, it's time for a new one.
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Re: Transmission Grinding
Another cause for gears grinding is the transmission shaft pilot bushing in the crankshaft. If your pilot bushing has been replaced lately this could be the problem if the clearance was not checked between pilot shaft and bushing. Sometimes installing the bushing will make the I.D. too small for correct clearance.
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Re: Transmission Grinding
A little tip do not replace the pilot bushing unless it is badly worn. they seldom wear out. you may need to adjust the clutch fingers
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Re: Transmission Grinding
I'm waiting until Monday for my new tires to be mounted and then I can test the adjustment I made. I'm also going to look up into that throwout bearing tonight when I get home from work. I'll take a picture.
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Re: Transmission Grinding
Here is what I can see when looking in the hole under the tractor.....
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Re: Transmission Grinding
Your throwout bearing looks good. Hopefully you can adjust the pedal and fix it. If not then your clutch disc may be worn. Your fingers on your pressure plate are almost all way out, you can see the studs with the nuts.
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Re: Transmission Grinding
Hi,
The throwout bearing material looks good in your pic.
The pressure plate fingers look low, measure them, and raise them up if needed. They have to be the right height so the clutch will release.
The guys on here say the height should be 1 1/4" measured from the 2 places shown in the pic below.
The 3 fingers need to be exactly the same height, so it makes a flat surface for the throwout bearing to push on.
The fingers can be adjusted through the hand hole. You need a good light for that.
The fingers are set with the pressure plate assembled on the flywheel, not off, like the pic shows.
Below is a post showing how to adjust the finger height. You have to make the tool shown in it.
Dale Finch has said that it is easier to adjust them if you loosen the free play adjustment bolt, at the clutch pedal base, and move the throwout bearing as far to the rear as it will go. This gives you more room to work.
Set the free play correctly when you are done setting the finger height.
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=66543
If you make the tool shown there in the post, and it is easier to measure the finger height.
The screws I can see in your pic, with the lock nuts, should turn in enough to raise the fingers some.
Grease the throwout bearing grease fitting while you are under the Cub. The originals had a small hole on top for excess grease to come out.
The throwout bearing material looks good in your pic.
The pressure plate fingers look low, measure them, and raise them up if needed. They have to be the right height so the clutch will release.
The guys on here say the height should be 1 1/4" measured from the 2 places shown in the pic below.
The 3 fingers need to be exactly the same height, so it makes a flat surface for the throwout bearing to push on.
The fingers can be adjusted through the hand hole. You need a good light for that.
The fingers are set with the pressure plate assembled on the flywheel, not off, like the pic shows.
Below is a post showing how to adjust the finger height. You have to make the tool shown in it.
Dale Finch has said that it is easier to adjust them if you loosen the free play adjustment bolt, at the clutch pedal base, and move the throwout bearing as far to the rear as it will go. This gives you more room to work.
Set the free play correctly when you are done setting the finger height.
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=66543
If you make the tool shown there in the post, and it is easier to measure the finger height.
The screws I can see in your pic, with the lock nuts, should turn in enough to raise the fingers some.
Grease the throwout bearing grease fitting while you are under the Cub. The originals had a small hole on top for excess grease to come out.
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Re: Transmission Grinding
Adjust the fingers on the pp and you will be good to go as I posted earlier before the pics
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