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Cub pulling dead weight sled

Postby meandmydeere » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:01 pm

We will be hosting the 1st Annual West Michigan CubFest on June 7-9 at the Muskegon County Fairgrounds in Fruitport, Michigan. I am close to building a pulling sled. My question is, not counting the weight of the dead weight sled, how much weight do we start with and at what increments do we add weight? 250 pounds? 500 pounds? I would think we would top out at about 2200 pounds. Any and all suggestions appreciated.
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Re: Cub pulling dead weight sled

Postby Eugene » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:17 pm

A weighted Cub can easily weigh 2200 lbs. So thinking a fully weighted Cub will pull more than 2200 lbs.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Cub pulling dead weight sled

Postby Peter Person » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:40 pm

Mark,
Our 4H club uses a flat bottom steel sled with a 45 degree bend on each end. It is 6' long and 3' wide. The concrete blocks weigh 150lbs and are 8" x 8" x 36" with 1" x 48" steel pipe running through the middle to handle them.
The sled weighs 200lbs.
We start out with the total weight at 1,150 lbs and add 2 blocks at a time.
This is for lawn/garden tractors.
A good condition Cub Cadet with wheel weights on the rear tires and 100-200lbs of weight on the front can pull 4,000 lbs.
My daughter Hannah pulled 6,650lbs last year.

A Cub ought to be able to pull 3,000 lbs without to much trouble.

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Re: Cub pulling dead weight sled

Postby Matt Kirsch » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:39 am

Just for reference, the first Nebraska Test for the Cub netted 1596lbs of drawbar pull.

There's a calculation you can do to figure out how much force it will take to overcome static friction of a steel sled on dirt, which you can use to figure out how much the sled needs to weigh to achieve that and then some.

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Re: Cub pulling dead weight sled

Postby meandmydeere » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:02 am

All good info. Now I have a starting point. Thank you everyone.
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Re: Cub pulling dead weight sled

Postby Peter Person » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:12 am

meandmydeere wrote:All good info. Now I have a starting point. Thank you everyone.
Mark

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Re: Cub pulling dead weight sled

Postby MiCarl » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:36 am

The pullers I've seen pulling dead weight don't start straight - they pull at an angle so they break the static friction before moving the weight. You need to work with the sliding friction, which will be less.

Sliding friction will vary by the surface, its moisture content and the underside of your sled.
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