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Problems continue

Postby Brodalick » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:07 am

Trying to install my governor when I realize the crankshaft pulley has been broken. Of course it is broken where the timing marks were. Is there any way to time this close without the timing marks

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Re: Problems continue

Postby Rick Prentice » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:15 am

Yep, I'm going out in a few. I'll locate top dead center on my 47 and take a pic where the handcrank is positioned when installed. then I'll carefully remove it and tell you. Providing you have a handcrank and our cross pins are in the same spot :shock: . My brain can't think of an easier way right now.

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Re: Problems continue

Postby Rick Prentice » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:15 am

and rotors pointing at number one.
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Rick Prentice » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:43 am

My handcrank pin is at 90 degrees with handle laying flat. With my rotor pointing at tdc and lining up my only crank notch. The upwards clockwise pull of the handcrank is right at 10 oclock when everything lines up. Sorry, all my accurite measuring devices are in storage.
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Re: Problems continue

Postby tmays » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:17 am

Or pull #1 plug and use finger over hole method to know when #1 is coming up on compression. Screwdriver or something similar to place in plug hole. (Long enough to not disappear, of course) Rotate crank clockwise until Piston at highest point
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Brodalick » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:23 pm

Thanks. Followd a little of both and Mark on crankshaft gear was visible. Now to line up governor Mark and install distributor.

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Re: Problems continue

Postby staninlowerAL » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:10 pm

tmays wrote:Or pull #1 plug and use finger over hole method to know when #1 is coming up on compression. Screwdriver or something similar to place in plug hole. (Long enough to not disappear, of course) Rotate crank clockwise until Piston at highest point

After doing as tmays suggests, when the piston is at/near the top, you can add enough light lubricant like MMO through the spark plug hole, when the hole is full to the top of the threads, rock the crank slightly and watch for the liquid to rise and fall. Max height of the liquid in the spark plug hole is TDC. (Obviously, the valves have to seal to be able to do this.)
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Rick Prentice » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:34 pm

the crankshaft pulley has been broken. Of course it is broken where the timing marks were
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and Mark on crankshaft gear was visible

So where exactly was it broke ?
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Brodalick » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:31 pm

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Crankshaft pulley has pieces broke right where the timing marks should be.
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Stanton » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:03 am

Look like the best you could do with this one, once you find TDC, is to use a Dremel or other tool to create a new timing mark on the front lip of the pulley.
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Eugene » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:48 am

Stanton wrote:Look like the best you could do with this one, once you find TDC, is to use a Dremel or other tool to create a new timing mark on the front lip of the pulley.
Or paint a timing mark on the right side of the engine block and on pulley. This way you are not running around from the left side of the engine to the right, making sure the timing is spot on.
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Eugene » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:54 am

The keyway slot in the crankshaft for the pulley is at TDC for cylinders #1 and 4. It will take some effort to find and position the keyway slot.

Something else to be aware of when trying to locate TDC. The piston remains at the top of the stroke for about 15 degrees of the crankshaft rotation.
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Re: Problems continue

Postby Brodalick » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:58 pm

I located top dead center using the finger method over the number one spark plug hole. I also painted both teeth on The Idler gear red and the one tooth on the drive gear red once I marry those up it should be right correct?

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Re: Problems continue

Postby tst » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:55 pm

I would think a pulley that broken would chew up the belt

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Re: Problems continue

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:10 pm

tst wrote:I would think a pulley that broken would chew up the belt

I agree. I think your long term plan should be to replace the pulley.
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