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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby oldfarmkid » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:03 pm

The one currently on the pump has been bent back and forth enough that the metal is starting to tear at the seam where it's been bent. Some small fragments have broken off. This one is in need of replacement. Didn't mean to ignore the suggestion of using a star washer. Just wanting to use one with a tab as 1st choice.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby john2189 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:16 pm

Has anyone ever tried locktite
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby indy61 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:01 pm

Here is the link to the Mcmaster-Carr washers. It states "Their partial cone shape gives these washers spring-like flexibility, so they distribute force and grip tighter than split and tooth lock washers." I don't know if they are reusable. I also notice the tab is located different from the one from TM.
https://www.mcmaster.com/tab-lock-washe ... ~tab-lock/
http://www.tmtractor.com/new/hy/562fp.htm
Than there is this photo from TM (that I assume is an original) that is different than both. I don't know if it matters which direction the cone is facing.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby SamsFarm » Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:34 pm

indy61 wrote: I don't know if they are reusable.


With 6 sides on a hex nut, you can fold fresh side of a new washer 6 times

indy61 wrote:I don't know if it matters which direction the cone is facing.


You would want to put it as viewed in the pic with the concave side facing the nut!
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby indy61 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:47 pm

I'm not sure the photos in the TM link are correct for the part. It says it's an original Case/IH part but why would it be painted for this application?

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/hy/562fp.htm

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby oldfarmkid » Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:14 pm

If the one from Mcmaster- Carr works, I'll not be concerned if they are reusable at $6.50 for a packet of 5ea.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby Gary Dotson » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:41 am

From what I can see, the ones at McMaster Carr have the lock tab on the outside diameter, and none on the inside diameter, unless Indy linked to a different item than old farm kid ordered. If that is the case, they are not what you need.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby john2189 » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:50 am

Gary Dotson wrote:From what I can see, the ones at McMaster Carr have the lock tab on the outside diameter, and none on the inside diameter, unless Indy linked to a different item than old farm kid ordered. If that is the case, they are not what you need.


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This is the style that will work. I hope he ordered this one from McMaster Carr
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby Barnyard » Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:41 am

Gary Dotson wrote:From what I can see, the ones at McMaster Carr have the lock tab on the outside diameter, and none on the inside diameter, unless Indy linked to a different item than old farm kid ordered. If that is the case, they are not what you need.

You know Gary, I kept toggling back and forth with those pictures and thought there was a difference, but just didn't see it. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby oldfarmkid » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:17 am

I bought the concave one on the left thinking it would be easier to get under and bend against the nut. Then my plan was to just bend the current tab in line with the rest of the washer and make my own tab as shown in the red, right, illustration. In my way of thinking I have five chances to get it correct for $6.50, instead of close to $50.00 after shipping is added for the one on the right. My other option may be to just reuse the old one with locktite and a star washer, then call it good.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:22 am

I wonder if not being concave will keep the tab from reaching down into the slot?

It almost looks like the tab's POSITION in the side by side photo is the same. Seems it wouldn't matter what direction the tab came from, just where it poked down.
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby oldfarmkid » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:54 am

Your right Dale,like your line of thinking, keep it simple. The washers were shipped just two hours away from me in Atlanta GA. Hope to have them soon. But then again they might get shipped two states away before they come back towards me.

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby john2189 » Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:17 pm

This is the style that you need from McMaster Carr

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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby Barnyard » Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:37 pm

oldfarmkid wrote:I have five chances to get it correct for $6.50, instead of close to $50.00 after shipping is added for the one on the right

Yes, that is too high. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the tab does not bend against the nut. I thout the tab is on the inside and slides into a notch next to the shaft.
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Re: Hydraulic Pump Drive Gear Washer

Postby Bob McCarty » Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:39 pm

The tab fits into the keyway slot.
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