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Re: Trailer size

Postby Gary Dotson » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:29 am

I hauled one of George’s crossways but it was a Loboy, a standard Cub would not fit. Like Jim mentioned, the second Cub had an implement on the back. My weight distribution was horrible, on that trip. That’s another reason for having a larger trailer, the ability to adjust placement of the tractors, for better distribution.

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Re: Trailer size

Postby Pap » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:54 am

Will one Cub ride ok on a single axle 12 footer ?
And should it be put on backwards or frontward ?
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Re: Trailer size

Postby tmays » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:27 am

Pap wrote:Will one Cub ride ok on a single axle 12 footer ?
And should it be put on backwards or frontward ?

I use a 12’ trailer for mine. Front first works for me
3500lb axle
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Re: Trailer size

Postby Don McCombs » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:27 pm

This is a Cub on a 6X10. It rode nicely behind a Toyota Tundra, but I wouldn’t want to tow it for more than 100 miles or so.

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Re: Trailer size

Postby Pap » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:22 pm

[quote="Don McCombs"]This is a Cub on a 6X10. It rode nicely behind a Toyota Tundra, but I wouldn’t want to tow it for more than 100 miles or so.

Thanks Don. I have a 6X12.
And I think I will be going about 300 miles. I'm not sure what the axle is rated at.
I was wondering which way would be better to load backwards or frontwards. Or would it make any difference.
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Re: Trailer size

Postby Don McCombs » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:36 pm

I always try to back on. Harder to load, but safer to unload.
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Re: Trailer size

Postby Pap » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:46 pm

Thanks Don. That is kinda what I was thinking but I haven't done it yet.
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Re: Trailer size

Postby Dusty B » Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:29 pm

Denny Clayton wrote:
Jeff Silvey wrote:I would stay with a 18-20 footer to be safe.
Just my 2$. Good luck.

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Re: Trailer size

Postby Clemsonfor » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:05 pm

Pap wrote:
Don McCombs wrote:This is a Cub on a 6X10. It rode nicely behind a Toyota Tundra, but I wouldn’t want to tow it for more than 100 miles or so.

Thanks Don. I have a 6X12.
And I think I will be going about 300 miles. I'm not sure what the axle is rated at.
I was wondering which way would be better to load backwards or frontwards. Or would it make any difference.

That size trailer I would be a lot of money that it's a 3500# axle. But your trailer is probably 900 give or take so that reduces your trailer load. Well technically only the sprung weight of the trailer. And I guess you technically can also take off the tongue weight from the capacity.

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Re: Trailer size

Postby Pap » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:12 pm

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I think that I read something about the axle is 3000.
I know that at doesn't have breaks on it. So I know that I will have to take it easy going down big hills.
But I think it will carry it ok.
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Re: Trailer size

Postby Dusty B » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:30 pm

yes, downsized to a 5 x 8 aluminum, just w/in max w/1 cub for my Lincoln! W/be pulling w/ Ford Ranger - if I upgrade to 16' or 18' would definitely have brakes!! Has anyone had any experience with surge brake systems?? Still exploring all options appreciate all shared experience!! What I have now is paid for and does work for me! LOL!!
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Re: Trailer size

Postby SONNY » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:35 pm

Not sure the surge brakes are legal anymore!--might want to check on that. They are a joke for sure!!
I haul one on a 6.5 x 10 with no problem behind the Explorer.

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Re: Trailer size

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:44 pm

My experience with surge brakes was with U-Haul rentals. They seemed to work better than I expected. One problem, you can't apply just the trailer brakes as you can with an electric controller.

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Re: Trailer size

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:55 pm

We had grain wagons with surge brakes, I never liked them. The controllers used to get stuck and wheels would drag, and backing up they always applied.
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Re: Trailer size

Postby Crimson Tim » Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:07 am

The trailer for my 6000# sailboat has surge brakes. I was surprised to find that they drive really nicely. Forward. When braking, you really can’t tell there’s a trailer back there, they handle all that weight that well.

However, two caveats, as mentioned.
1.) There’s no way to apply the trailer brakes independently of the tow vehicle’s. Not that there is that much call for this, but used prudently, it can be useful to settle lateral oscillations if some rough road upsets the trailer.
2.) the brakes apply any time the trailer pushes on the tow vehicle. That means they will apply any time you go to back up. With mine, there was a latch pin to put in place to physically prevent them from triggering. So I had to stop, jump out and run back to the hitch, switch the pin to deactivate the brakes, run back to the truck to back up and do whatever maneuvering was required, then jump out and run back to the hitch again to move the pin back and reactivate the brakes before taking off again. Not super convenient.

Bottom line, I don’t hate surge brakes, but my preference is still for the electric brakes with the controller in the truck.


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