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Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:10 pm

I now have a Henderson loader for the Cub, thanks ajhbike, and have some questions.

I believe at one time TM had some photos and information on their website that is no longer available. Does anyone have copies of it that could email it to me?

Is there any chance anyone has a copy of the hydraulics schematic?

Are there any photos/illustrations of the installation process other than the manual?

Any detailed photos/closeups of an installation would be greatly appreciated.

This is the style/model I have:
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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby Barnyard » Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:35 pm

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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:22 pm

Thanks. Is that yours and if so, where's you get the decal?
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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby Barnyard » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:27 pm

Not mine. It belonged to Bud Sottong before he passed away. Photos were taken at his CubFest several years ago.
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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:39 pm

Oh, ok, thanks.
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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby muleboss » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:34 pm

Here some pictures of one I have
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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:43 am

Thanks. Interesting how the upper support bars were filled in. On mine someone added bracing underneath instead.

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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:11 am

I need to replace two of the steel rods shown below, the two upper ones. What I'm not sure of is the type of steel since there is a lot of pressure applied to them when operating the loader. Anybody ever come across any specs for something like this?

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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby ajhbike » Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:55 am

I would look into shaft stock

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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby Gary Dotson » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:25 am

Rather than being 2 separate rods, I would think that would have originally been 1 continuous rod. Probably was hot roll steel, originally.

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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:26 am

Yes, they are one piece rods but in total there are three of them. One was saved intact but two were cut. You can see the lengths in the illustration I posted above.

Made some progress this morning. I was able to break loose the two cylinders at the upper rod ends. I can move each about 30-40 degrees so it's a matter of time until they are completely loose and I can wedge them off.
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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:34 am

radioguy41 wrote:What I'm not sure of is the type of steel since there is a lot of pressure applied to them when operating the loader.



Gary Dotson wrote:Probably was hot roll steel, originally.


My guess woud be hot rolled steel too!

Quick internet search
From https://www.mkmetal.net/steel/bar/hot-rolled

Hot rolled steel
"Tensile Strength 67,000 psi"

1" hot rolled bar has a area of .7854 square inches.

67,000 x .7854 = 52,621.8 pounds of pressure to stretch your 1" bars
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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:55 pm

I'm pretty sure it's not alloy steel, high carbon steel, or any kind of hardened steel. My Sawzall cuts through it like butter. I'm looking at grade 1018 rods, 59,465 psi tensile strength.

AISI1018 Carbon Steel is a low carbon steel which is characterized by good weldability, good machinability, high strength and impact properties in either the normalized or hot forged condition. SAE1018/AISI1018 steel is widely used for screw machine parts, shafts, pins, spindles and rods.


I was able to remove both cylinders this afternoon, once I cut the ends of the shaft off.

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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby radioguy41 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:11 pm

Picked up a little hydraulic tool to help with getting those shaft stubs out (and some other things) but it'll have to wait for Spring. :)
The frame is in storage in the shed for the Winter.

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Re: Henderson loader questions

Postby T-Mo » Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:39 am

Check our pdf manual section.

http://farmallcub.com/[ Sorry, direct links to manual section is not allowed. ]/index.php?d ... ls&order=0

I had this posted a few years back. I had one on a '44 B, traded the tractor with loader last year.

Here is a video of it when I first bought it.



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