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Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby MrBee » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:59 pm

New to the forum. Just picked up a 1955 Cub (serial #192885J) with Hi-crop front and rear wheels. Tractor has old but essentially brand new tires on the rear, but one of the wheels is about 1/3 rotted away. The other is a little rough, but salvageable. Does anyone know of a source for used Hi-crop wheels, or even a new wheel that can be adapted to work? Thank you.

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby tst » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:04 pm

allis model g wheels are the same rim I believe is the mounting was different, I think they repop those

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby Glen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:31 am

Hi,
Below is the 1955 Cub owner's manual, if you don't have it. The experts on here say everyone with a 1955 Cub should read it. It has lots of info about operation, maintenance, and lubrication.
There is a table of contents on page 1. It has pics of how the Cubs looked when they were new. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby Stanton » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:46 am

Welcome!

You can always put a Wanted post in The Vine Classifieds; located here: http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=32

Take some time and read through a few threads to acquaint yourself with the Forum:

After your 2nd post on the Forum, you'll have access to the all the free PDF Manuals. They are located via "Quick Links" in the upper left corner of your screen. Hit that and a pull-down appears where you'll find "PDF Manuals". Through that link, you'll be able to download an Owner's Manual (like Glen said, very strongly recommended) and any service manuals that interest you. You'll be able to familiarize yourself with your new-to-you Cub more quickly. Implement Manuals are also available. You didn't say whether this was your first tractor or just your first Cub. Either way, the manuals are beneficial.

Might also enjoy reading through this thread: What to do with a Cub you just brought home

Post some pictures of this Hi-Crop Cub; we'd like to see it.

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby Cubfriend » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:16 am

tst wrote:allis model g wheels are the same rim I believe is the mounting was different, I think they repop those

I have seen the “G” wheels converted to Cub high crop wheels. Takes some fabrication. If your old rim has the mounts in good condition you could put them on the “G” wheel. The person that did this researched and found the correct rivets to make them look original.
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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby MrBee » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:22 am

Thank you for all of the information. I’ll try to get some pictures posted later this week. It is pretty rough and the engine is currently stuck, but was complete and the price was right. The mounts are still good on the rear wheels, so I could salvage them and use them on new rims. It is my first tractor, but I have been working on my bosses 1955 Oliver Super 77, so I kinda got the bug. Does anyone know who may make repro Allks Chalmers G wheels?

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:22 pm

Here's one source. The Allis Chalmers forum has some others and a Classified page.
viewtopic.php?f=223&t=101358#p801228

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby MrBee » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:42 pm

Thank you for all of the information. Got the engine freed up the other day. Not really sure I have a true Hi-Crop Cub. It has the bigger rear wheels, but the front wheels are the standard 12” rims. Seems as though the front wheel support posts have been extended as both appear to be twice as long as normal. Looks like a professional job, good welds and grease zerks were added. Here are a few pictures.
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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby staninlowerAL » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:28 pm

Different from what i've seen. Other "HI Crop" that I've seen had 15 inch fronts. Someone will chime in to enlighten.

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby Cubfriend » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:37 pm

Yes, The ones that were factory parts had 15” fronts and 30” rears. This appears to be someone’s rendition of a high crop other than what the factory intended. There were also High and Wide models. The center front axle tube and tierods were wider and the rears had axle extensions. (The rear wheels are correct for a High Crop)
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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby Cubfriend » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:56 pm

Over the years I believe a lot of people just bought the wheels from the dealer and put them on their Cub. To order the High Crop kit would get you more parts such as axle extensions, extra wide center front axle tube and tierods along with the wheels.
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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby Glen » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:15 pm

Hi,
There is some wheel info in the owner's manual I posted above, on page 58.

The Cub in your pics looks like it has a mid 1958 - 1964 grille, and maybe the hood too, I can't see the hood side too good in your pic.

The front wheels look toed out too much, not sure if they are, or it's just the pic making it look that way. You probably noticed if they are. The tie rods that move in the tubes need to be set in the right position, so they are the same on both sides, and match where the axle is adjusted to. :)

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby MrBee » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:50 pm

Yes, I believe the hood and grill were swapped out at some point. Hood has a hole for a vertical exhaust, while the tractor is set up with horizontal exhaust.

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Re: Cub Hi-crop wheels

Postby Brandon Webb » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:13 pm

It's more of a wide crop option compared to a high crop. The high crop only adds 2 inches of drawbar height over a regular cub. It came all together as a factory option but was sold in kit form for field installations. I'm not sure farmers just bought the wheels to gain 2 inches. More a wide option designed for use with the Planet Jr. planters.


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